When we find the WMD's that we know are there. Oops, mission accomplished, oops again, when we find Saddam, been there done that, Oops. When the Iraqi can be trained to take care of themselves is the answer, Bush said, of course he said all of those other things and many more. The truth is when we elect a congress that will stand up to him. Cut off the funding and bring the people home. That will be a clear path to victory.What is the clear path to victory?
first you have to tell us what you mean by ';victory';
The path is never clear and now it looks like the path is getting too narrow
we monkey libs feel that victory can only be achieved by the cut and run mentality of our party
Iraq is an unwinnable war militarily. We need to combat ideology, and you cant' do that at the barrel of a gun. Extremeism is rampant, and guess what...we only fueled the fire!
You need to be in a war to win a victory. This is an invasion. The only way for Iraq to win against the invaders is the get the Americans out.
What is the clear path to victory?
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Through the side streets of Hell.
Stay the course. No, wait. Win by adapting. No, wait. Is there a new path this week?
no one can answer such a question. I suggest you write the president and ask him what he sees as the out come.
First, victory needs to be defined. The only definition given so far is the establishment of a democratic, representative government that is not vulnerable to overthrow from within or attack from without.
That hasn't existed in the history of the country, so we have no idea what it would look like. Heck, even the US can barely achieve a democratic, representative government that is not vulnerable to overthrow from within.... and it was less than a century before we had to quell the first civil war. And while the US haven't broken out in open sectarian violence, our polarization makes us nowhere near truly stable or representative.
So, assuming that Iraq can do as well as we can... expect a decade of war, followed by several more decades of armed revolts and attacks, and about a century before it is semi-stable. And at least one or two more centuries after that, if all goes well, before it is no longer tearing itself apart.
I actually liked one solution I heard, which is to allow the country to fragment into separate parts of the different sectarian groups. Don't try for one central federalist government. That has the best chance of being able to occur in under a decade, which leaves just the normal rivalry between neighboring countries in the region.
Destruction of all of the Islamo-Fascist terrorists and a declaration of war made by Congress on Iran and Syria
for supporting the terrorists who are in Iraq*iraq and Afghanistan and who have terror cells in the USA , UK,
Indonesia, Phillipines, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon and in
Europe. Also in Asia.
We must commit atleast a million troops to Iraq and begin many flights over the area .Close all traffic between cities and deliver fod medicine and supplys to central secured locations .All shipments must be checked for contraban if we are to win .
I still feel we should pack up and go home that this is not going to work anyhow no matter how much longer we stay unless it is permenent and we did not agree to that in the beggining .
If Bush KNEW, we would no longer be there.
Hey monkey boy, what exactly happened at Tora Bora? Care to discuss that?
Getting the Republicans out of office would be a good start.
Saying, ';There is no peace in retreat,'; President George W. Bush declared the United States will stay the course in Iraq. In his State of the Union speech to the U.S. Congress and the American people, Mr. Bush says the coalition in Iraq has ';a clear path to victory';:
';First, we're helping Iraqis build an inclusive government, so that old resentments will be eased and the insurgency will be marginalized. Second, we're continuing reconstruction efforts, and helping the Iraqi government to fight corruption and build a modern economy, so all Iraqis can experience the benefits of freedom. And, third, we're striking terrorist targets while we train Iraqi forces that are increasingly capable of defeating the enemy. Iraqis are showing their courage every day, and we are proud to be their allies in the cause of freedom.';
President Bush says ';the work in Iraq is difficult because the enemy is brutal';:
';Their aim is to seize power in Iraq, and use it as a safe haven to launch attacks against America and the world. . . .But that brutality has not stopped the dramatic progress of a new democracy. In less than three years, the nation has gone from dictatorship to liberation, to sovereignty, to a constitution, to national elections. At the same time, our coalition has been relentless in shutting off terrorist infiltration, clearing out insurgent strongholds, and turning over territory to Iraqi security forces. I am confident in our plan for victory. I am confident in the will of the Iraqi people. I am confident in the skill and spirit of our military. Fellow citizens, we are in this fight to win, and we are winning.';
';Our coalition has learned from our experience in Iraq,'; said President Bush. ';We've adjusted our military tactics and changed our approach to reconstruction.'; The course in Iraq is clear. ';Our nation,'; said President Bush, ';has only one option: we must keep our word, defeat our enemies, and stand behind the American military in this vital mission.';
The preceding was an editorial reflecting the views of the United States Government.
WASHINGTON, June 27 - Faced with polls showing public doubts that the situation in Iraq is improving, President Bush will emphasize in an address on Tuesday night that there is a ';clear path to victory'; and urge Americans to maintain their resolve, the White House spokesman, Scott McClellan, said Monday.
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Mr. Bush will speak to the nation at 8 p.m. from Fort Bragg, N.C., before an audience of hundreds of troops. ABC said it would carry the address live. CBS and NBC said they had yet to decide. Tuesday is the first anniversary of the formal transfer of sovereignty to the Iraqis after the American-led invasion.
Mr. McClellan suggested that Mr. Bush would not signal any change in military or diplomatic strategy. Instead, he said, the president will emphasize that Iraq is making progress despite the mounting loss of life, and that the United States cannot allow the understandable concern about the violent insurgency to deter it from completing the job.
Mr. McClellan said Mr. Bush would ';be talking in a very specific way'; about his strategy of training and equipping Iraqis to defend themselves while encouraging them to move ahead with the writing of a constitution and the establishment of a stable democracy.
';The terrorists have inflicted great suffering,'; Mr. McClellan said in summarizing Mr. Bush's planned theme. ';There have been tremendous sacrifices. But the cause for which we are in Iraq is an important one, and there is great progress being made on the ground.';
Democrats called for more than words from Mr. Bush to reassure Americans that he was being honest about the situation in Iraq and had a realistic strategy. Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the Democratic leader, said Mr. Bush ';has got a long list of things he needs to talk to the American people about, and I hope it is substance, not fluff.';
The liberal group MoveOn PAC said it would begin an advertising campaign on Tuesday calling for withdrawal from Iraq. ';We got in the wrong way,'; the announcer says at the end of the commercial. ';Let's get out the right way.';
It has been a sobering week in Iraq. The sectarian violence that has followed the bombing of Samarra's Al-Askariya Mosque is troubling for one specific reason: It has revealed that the Bush administration鈥檚 theory of victory in Iraq is based on false assumptions.
There are two components to the Administration鈥檚 theory of victory: 1) That Iraqi security forces will soon be able to start replacing American forces; and 2) That political progress, particularly the incorporation of Sunni elites, will cut the legs out from under the insurgency.
The first of these assumptions has been shown, time and again, to be untrue. Not only have Shiite government forces been accused of abducting and murdering Sunnis, they have also proven inadequate in fighting the insurgency. Consider the clash in Baghdad yesterday, in which insurgents were able to hold off government for three hours, only dispersing when coalition forces arrived. Does it look like the insurgents perceive parity in the fighting-power of American and Iraqi forces?
The second assumption, perhaps more promising, has proven equally ungrounded. The Administration has long argued that the processes of democratization and the inclusion of Sunni political and religious leaders in the government would end support for the insurgency. It was disheartening to see, then, that the carnage has continued right through today despite calls by prominent Sunni leaders for unity and a cessation of reprisal killings.
The Bush administration is stuck between a big rock and a very hard place: A reality in which Iraqi forces cannot provide security, and one in which the insurgency is not influenced by national politics or Sunni political leaders.
The path to victory in Iraq has never been so unclear.
There is no 'clear path to victory' in this war. This is the 'original world war'. We've been keeping Muslims from trying to take over the world since the crusades. What, you thought that the crusades were just fanatic Christians charging off into Europe, raping and plundering? No, as long as the 'religion of peace' exists...no one is safe. All of this is nothing new ....read your history...
After all our troops get out of Iraq and the president stop messin' with others countries... A new president would be a good idea.
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